Misc #19858: DevMeeting-2023-09-14

• Status: Closed
• Assignee: -

[mame (Yusuke Endoh)]

The next dev meeting

Date: 2023/09/14 13:00-17:00 (JST)
Log: TBD

• Dev meeting IS NOT a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
• Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
• Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
• We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
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• The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
• DO NOT discuss then on this ticket, please.

Call for agenda items

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* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)

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* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.

• It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/09/11. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
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[mame (Yusuke Endoh)]

• Related to Misc #14770: [META] DevelopersMeeting added

[kyanagi (Kouhei Yanagita)]

• [Feature #19075] Binary searching for the last element (kyanagi)
  • My latest pull request implements bsearch(target: :last) and bsearch_index(target: :last).
  • https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19075#note-6
  • argument name?: target: :last, find: :last, reverse: true, ...
  • separate method or not?: bsearch_last, reverse_bsearch, rbsearch, ...

[nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)]

• [Bug #19868] Process::Status methods for compatibility with Fixnum (nobu)
  • Looking at 54274b8c65a0981f1c69055a1513ba3c614dd675, noticed that pst_rshift contains shift by a negative integer, an unspecified behavior in C99.
  • I think an exception would be ok for such argument, also we can suggest alternative methods to encourage the transition.
  • https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/8392

[jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)]

• [Bug #17146] Queue operations are allowed after it is frozen (jeremyevans0)
  • Last discussed at October 2020 developer meeting, no decision made.
  • @headius (Charles Nutter) and I discussed this at RubyKaigi and agreed it would be best to raise FrozenError for push/pop for frozen queues.
  • Can we either decide this is a bug and fix it, or decide it is not and close it?
• [Bug #17354] Module#const_source_location is misleading for constants awaiting autoload (jeremyevans0)
  • Last discussed at March 2021 developer meeting, no decision made.
  • I agree the method result is misleading, but as @mame (Yusuke Endoh) states in note 10, current design is the most flexible.
  • Can we either decide this is a bug and fix it, or decide it is not and close it?
• [Bug #7964] Writing an ASCII-8BIT String to a StringIO created from a UTF-8 String (jeremyevans0)
  • Do we want StringIO to handle encoding?
  • Making it handle encoding makes it more like IO, fixing some existing compatibility issues but introducing new compatibility issues.
• [Bug #9115] Logger traps all exceptions; breaks Timeout (jeremyevans0)
  • Can we fix this by supporting specific exception classes to reraise instead of swallow?
  • If not, is there an alternative approach that would be acceptable to fix this?

[mame (Yusuke Endoh)]

• Status changed from Open to Closed